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  Why using Jehovah for God's name is as good as using Yahweh

  by oppostate in

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  in another thread i wrote some notes about why using jehovah in english is as good as using yahweh.

  i'm starting a discussion on this topic because it sounds quite ignorant to hear people talk of the monk who started using it in latin without really understanding why the monk did so.. the spanish dominican monk, raymundus martini, in 1270, didn't get hoodwinked by an old jewish superstition about pronouncing the divine name with the vowel points of another word.. 1. first the vowel points of adonay and jehovah cannot be the same for grammatical reasons.

  you just can't use the same vowel points because some vowels aren't paired with some consonants in pronouncing hebrew words.

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  never a jw

  I agree with the basic premise that a name is just a way of identifying something without changing its essence. However, it's the emphasis that JW's put on that name when combined with the history of it that makes it amusing. They are always attacking other religions, especially the RC, for corrupting scripture, not realizing or not admitting that that corruption is all over their own Bible, especially that mongrel, "Jehovah"

  @CalebinFloroda

  I have read your explanation by another biblical scholar, Christine Hayes, I like it much better than the idea of the tetragramaton being a proper name in the ordinary sense. I agree with that conclusion just based on what you quoted from the Bible, namely the name revelation to Moses.
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  Should I hit send button as is? Change? Or just hit delete?

  by Lied2NoMore in

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  2. experiences

  so after being deleted because of my comment on her instagram post by my sister-in-law i got a text from her stating she didn't want a debate on instagram and the scripture i posted would not apply to satan, they are worried about me, go see elders, return to jehovah, or else you won't get life, etc etc.... i'm ready to respond with the following reply:.

  so....hit send?

  make changes?

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  never a jw

  I agree with all the comments saying "change" or "delete". But quite often I find myself saying all the things that you wrote and coloring it with four letter words. I have "preached" this way to two of my JW brothers and an two elders for three years. They are still attending meetings, conventions and preaching, as much as they did before. Only time will tell if I made a dent in their beliefs. However, there's a better way, I think, the gentle, subtle way to persuade works more effectively. It allows for discussion to continue. Your way (my way too) ends the process quite abruptly.

  Define clearly your objective. Is it to unload your anger on a believer, or hurt the Watchtower by pulling away its most valued resources, your sister and 8 million other innocent humans. I'd go for the latter.
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  Candace Conti Settles

  by Nitty-Gritty in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hot topic on topix seems to be candace conti settlement.

  but it's all quiet here.

  are you guys aware that your hero, who was not in it for the money but to change policies, settled without changing anything?

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  never a jw

  @Nittygritty

  Candace lost, or changed nothing??? From this court case we got...

  1. Two national news shows brought negative coverage about the Watchtower, not about Candace.
  2. Candace case also has caused many people to come out of the shadows and denounce the Watchtower congregations as a pedophile haven. Several lawsuits have been spearheaded by the results in the Conti vs Watchtower case. More negative coverage to come.
  3. The Watchtower paid an undisclosed amount of money to Candace.

  According to your account I should reverse my previous statements. You would like to possibly exchange the words "Watchtower" and "Candace". But, will that be accurate and truthful?
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  My Issue: How To Step Down As A MS Without Getting Noticed

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so that other thread was fun but now i need some help with something.

  i was born in the truth most of my family is in.

  although they aren't outwardly super spiritual i doubt any of them would ever leave.

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  never a jw

  How about being an irresponsible MS. Missing meetings where you have a part? or low participation in FS?, or do talks without the ideal attire? do talks without good preparation, without notes?
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  Help finding video

  by Pubsinger in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  sorry everyone i keep asking for help.. there was a short video someone put up, it had letts saying 'we reject the claims of apostates that we cover up child abuse' and then it cuts to court footage of elders saying they were aware under oath, then cuts back to the same clip of letts saying the same thing.

  then more courtroom footage and back to letts saying it again.

  it was a great clip.

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  never a jw

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYxG2F3Wd8c&feature=player_embedded
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  Help finding video

  by Pubsinger in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  sorry everyone i keep asking for help.. there was a short video someone put up, it had letts saying 'we reject the claims of apostates that we cover up child abuse' and then it cuts to court footage of elders saying they were aware under oath, then cuts back to the same clip of letts saying the same thing.

  then more courtroom footage and back to letts saying it again.

  it was a great clip.

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  never a jw

  http://tv.jw.org/#video/VODProgramsEvents/pub-jwbmw_E_201502_5_VIDEO

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIwYIUQ_Q08&feature=player_embedded
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  10 years and Satan finally struck....

  by snare&racket in

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  2. friends

  i left around a decade ago, life has not been easy, but it has been profoundly better than the jw robotics my earlier life chapters resembled.. my current life was going so well, too well...... and finally the nemesis of jahooha came out from his dark hiding place.

  no longer in gods tent i was as vulnerable as the chinese job and his unfortunate sheep and children.. satan, bless his socks of cotton, has finally attacked, he broke my leg the dark lordy bastard.. a spiral fracture of the fibula and various fractures the ankle joint.. the worst of all his evil doings was the story i have to tell people, it's 'mechanism of injury'..... i slipped on some grass.

  yes the devilish ball rash, got me good.. so now, i sit bored, wishing i had meetings to prepare for, talks to write and i long for the live bombing i would have received as an interesting new kingdom hall event in the decades of waiting on jahooha..... but all i have is some lame ass, american apostates on a forum..... tchhhh.... .

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  never a jw

  Hi Snare.

  Good to hear from you again. I hope the healing process is quick and painless. I also hope that you and all the apostates here heed the clear message from Jehovah. Go back to Jehovah's tent before he unleashes his power again.
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  these books, want any? if not they go in the trash

  by sowhatnow in

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  2. bible

  worldwide security under the prince of peacegods eternal purpose now triumphinglife does have a purpose babylon the great has fallen gods kingdom rulesyou can live forever on a paradise earththe secret to family happinessdid man get here by evolution of creationlet your kingdom comechoosing the best way of lifecommentary on the letter of jamesi have one of each.. the bible gods word or mansis the bible really the word of godsurvival into a new earthknowledge that leads to everlasting lifereasoningunited in worshipholy spirit the force behind the coming new orderthe two babylon'sparadise lost originalyou can live forever on a paradise earth first large print edition 1982 revelation book 1988 large print.

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  never a jw

  Commentary on letter of James is out there in PDF. I have had it in my hard drive for years. Send me your email and I will send it to you.
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  these books, want any? if not they go in the trash

  by sowhatnow in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  worldwide security under the prince of peacegods eternal purpose now triumphinglife does have a purpose babylon the great has fallen gods kingdom rulesyou can live forever on a paradise earththe secret to family happinessdid man get here by evolution of creationlet your kingdom comechoosing the best way of lifecommentary on the letter of jamesi have one of each.. the bible gods word or mansis the bible really the word of godsurvival into a new earthknowledge that leads to everlasting lifereasoningunited in worshipholy spirit the force behind the coming new orderthe two babylon'sparadise lost originalyou can live forever on a paradise earth first large print edition 1982 revelation book 1988 large print.

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  never a jw

  Not written by Ray Franz, but written by one of his close friends, who was also kicked out of Bethel around the same time. I may be wrong.
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  It came in today's mail

  by Virgochik in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it came today, the dreaded envelope containing my personal copy of "return to jehovah" from my elderly, desperate mother.

  it included a small note asking me to read it over and to let her know what i think.

  she got it at her assembly.. firstly, i'm angry that she continues to push her religion on me, given that i stopped attending meetings over thirty years ago, and very offended that she assumes that i still want to be a witness, which is her choice of religion, not mine.

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  never a jw

  Hold me Thrill me,

  You are too nice, but your "put your mother before yourself" is wrong. Is Virgochick supposed to comply with her mother's wishes to make her happy at the expense of her (Virgo) own happiness?

  I don't put anyone else before myself unless they earn that position based on merit, not kinship, or motherhood or anything. The only exception is my children because they are innocent and I am morally responsible for their well being.

  The only thing I would say to Virgochick is: have pity on that woman, your mother, the same way you have pity on anyone who is helplessly delusional.